The calorie-uncounting experiment: Week 3 Progress report

For those new to my blog, I recently stopped keeping track of calories in an effort to be more 'normal' about the process of eating.  In conjunction with a lifetime of yo-yo dieting and finally ~90+ pound weight loss, I found that (?obsessively) tracking my calories helped to keep me on the straight and narrow.  So it was with some trepidation that I decided to go against what I determined was working for me.

Three weeks ago, I stopped inputting my eats into Daily Plate with the caveat that I should eat as though I was going to log the calories.  This was really an effort to avoid excessive BLTs (bites, licks, tastes) or ordering a Monte Cristo when I would never have done so in the past.

I truly expected a disaster:  weight gain, worry, lack of control and quite possibly the end of the world as we know it.

But so far, that hasn't happened.  The world didn't end (despite all best predictions and a big volcano eruption in Iceland). In three weeks, I haven't gained weight, which is plenty of time for me to pack it on.

Some other things I've noticed so far:
  • I feel like I'm eating fewer calories, but I am actually not.  As many people warned me, the rainman-like calorie calculations will still happen in my head, even if I'm not officially noting them on paper or online.  On a few occasions, I've done a rough estimate in my head of calories at the end of the day and they are in line with what they were before this experiment, despite me feeling like 'I hardly ate anything.'  I do fear that I'm not getting enough protein and I need to keep an eye on that.  This is a little bit discouraging.
  • I'm hungry at very strange times.  Like 4am. Regularly.  As I'm listening to my hunger signals more, I find that sometimes I'm not that hungry at dinner time or before bed.  I suppose that the 4am wakeup call is nature's way of telling me to have a snack before bed, even if I'm not ravenous. The nights that I've done this, I haven't awoken at dawn.
  • I AM making slightly different food choices, and part of that is due to the freedom from weighing and measuring.  It is also due to the fact that I am listening to what my body is craving rather than what I feel that I 'should' have.  I have cut back on my Hugh Jass salads because they just aren't as appealing  (I know, I know- ANOTHER one of my 'tricks' of getting back on track...which feels very hypocritical.)  My "BLTs" are unchanged and I haven't ordered a Monte Cristo yet, but who knows, I very well might one day if someone would split it with me.  On that note, I did order a totally un-Deb-like breakfast the other day with Eden & Janetha:  A Dutch Baby from Elmer's.  And dare I say that I was almost a little bit proud of myself?  Crazy risk-taker, I am!  Needless to say, it was freakin' amazing and I was stuffed for hours.
Usually, I only lust after these 'babies' from afar.  I ate ~1/3 or 1/2 and added some egg whites on the side for protein- stuffed!
Eden sent me the following photo using the cool new free labeling app called Labelbox that we're all in love with: 

But I added my own label to it.
  •  I am not being held hostage to 'actual' serving sizes.  Here's a great example:  I eat 100-calorie microwave popcorn on most days.  I usually have two and sometimes even three if I'm feeling particularly 'snacky' (which is roughly the same as a large bag).  Recently, I ran out of them and started making popcorn from scratch in a microwave bowl. I've been grabbing a handful of kernels that turns out to be roughly 1.5 servings, and I've added a tiny amount of truffle oil from a spray bottle. I've been very satisfied and haven't felt the need to go back and get another bowl yet.  So my serving sizes are more in line with my stomach and my head, and not with a label.  Apparently, this is new to me.
This was not my usual night in with my Orville Redenbacher 100-calorie popcorn.  It was New Year's Eve in Iceland (hence the crazy-hott tiara over the beanie look) and I hadn't had popcorn in about 2 weeks.  I was thrilled with this find.
  •  I am not going clinically insane.  Somehow I thought that I would be a wreck and this is not the case at all. Granted, I've been home and not traveling, so I am able to have my shakes at breakfast and my MOIST protein muffins whenever I get the craving for rich, chocolate cake.  And this does help me tremendously.  I will be full of trepidation on our next trip.  Of that I can assure you.
"Eating" my go-to breakfast shake: lady-like as always
    I do want to mention that I believe that it was helpful for me to stick with counting calories and eating many Hugh Jass salads a few months ago when I had just come off the holidays and crazy amounts of travel.  It gave me a sense of normalcy and structure, which definitely helped to get me back on track. I'm beginning to feel that different strategies can work at different times of one's life. There certainly is no 'One Answer.'

    So that's the report from here.

    Q:  Have any of you experienced something similar, or something wildly different when you stopped tracking calories?  Or if you still do track, how is that working for you?  Any other fans of popcorn, Dutch babies or Monte Cristos (my favorite 'sandwich' in high school).

    34 comments:

    Another *** Diet Girl said...

    Thought I'd say hi! Just found your blog from Janetha. Random Q - what's a monte cristo? (I'm Australian - guessing they're a US thing?)

    McIntosh said...

    Well done...I've heard that it takes three weeks to break a habit. You've made it to the home stretch (:

    Love this line: "... I decided to go against what I determined was working for me."

    HUGE popcorn fan here...I have 2 air poppers (one for emergency back up) and have experimented with spices like a madwoman. Probably a bit like you are with smoothies.

    I'm a little burnt (random pun?) out by it right now and on a smoothie kick. Go figure :)

    Heather McD (Heather Eats Almond Butter) said...

    Deb,
    All the photos in this post have me smiling. I need to look into this label maker app. So funny, and I love the tiara popcorn New Years pic. Classic,

    I'm happy to hear it's going well. You sound like you are in a good place and no more spending 45 minutes each day adding everything up must be a relief, no?

    Confession: I have never made popcorn from scratch. I've got some kernels someone sent me and a recipe all bookmarked. You've inspired me. Goal for the weekend: POPCORN!

    iheartvegetables said...

    This is so awesome!!! Sometimes when I count my calories I get a little too caught up in the numbers and I forget what the POINT is!!! I should be enjoying my food, not stressing over it! I hope you're doing well with the intuitive eating! I know it's hard!

    Andrea@WellnessNotes said...

    Glad it's going well! You clearly started this experiment with a lot of thought and at a good time (no traveling, etc.).

    I think I said this before, but I think I never counted calories (at least not for any length of time) because it just seemed like way too much work and too restricting. When I did count for a few days here and there (really to get an idea at where I was at), I ended up changing what I was eating because figuring out the calories in a serving of random from scratch dishes was way too much work for me... Yes, I'm lazy!

    Again, so glad it's working! And I have always wanted to order a Dutch Baby! :)

    Daphne said...

    This post was SUCH a relief for me to read. I'm counting calories and, if all goes well, I'll be at my target weight in October. I really, really don't want to count calories the rest of my life. Hopefully, I can use the habits I'm gaining now and maintain.

    Susan said...

    Here is what I've noticed with calorie counting: I don't need to do it when I'm following my usual day-to-day routine. I DO need to do it in times of stress (when I'm most likely to overeat) and when my routine is changed (like when travelling). I was surprised when I first stopped counting calories a while back by how my eating habits didn't drastically change. But it was because I was eating the same things over and over, counting it all became pointless!

    One other thing I've noticed: Big dishes like that dutch baby used to be totally off limits for me too. But I've since noticed that eating something like a 900 calorie monte cristo keeps me full for HOURS. Which means I don't eat as much for the rest of the day, which in turn means that it all balances out somehow :)

    Lindsay and James Cotter said...

    i love this and it makes me smile that you have found a sense of intuitive eating. Its freakin hard. Our society bombards us with too extremes, count count and weigh weigh or GORGE and never look back. We have no clue how to find a happy medium until we clear everything from our brain. I say this because I am right there with you. Cheers to MONTE CRISTO!

    janetha @ meals & moves said...

    Yay for you! I am so glad it is going well and that you haven't gained. It must have been that tape worm I snuck into your meal before leaving PS. I knew it would do the trick ;)

    But seriously, I know just how big calorie counting is to you.. so this is huge. You THINK in calories.. so letting go of that mentality is such a big task for you that I don't think others realize. It's not like you woke up one day and just decided to stop tracking.. it is probably harder for you to not track than to track purely out of what you are used to. I am really impressed with your progress!

    Also, it's fun that you have been eating things you crave and going out on a limb to really enjoy what you want. I am doing this a lot more, too.. had french toast just now with, gasp, no protein ;)

    I find that I wake up SO hungry if I go to bed without a snack. Funny how that works.

    Love you! Hope all is well on your trip so far! You and your curry muffin..

    Lisa said...

    I started the whole Intuitive Eating thing recently as well (in March). I had a very hard time trusting myself and my hunger cues when I first started, and, like you, I estimated calories in my head. I still do, but it's starting to fade some, and I'm just trying to keep an eye on getting a balance of carb/protein/fat since my workouts are fairly intense. Ultimately, I believe my body knows what it needs, so even watching the macronutrients will become intuitive. (pipe dream?)

    One thing that really helped me put some structure to my hunger cues was this "Hunger Scale" I found online (not sure where now):

    10. Stuffed to the point of feeling sick
    9. Very uncomfortably full, clothes really tight
    8. Uncomfortably full, stuffed
    7. Very full, feel you have overeaten
    6. Comfortably full, satisfied
    5. Comfortable, neither hungry or full
    4. Beginning signals of hunger
    Hunger urge comes every 2-5 minutes for just a moment. Try to go back to what you were doing, it may go away. It may be more “I see it so I want it”, or psychological eating.
    3. Hungry, ready to eat
    Hunger urge lasts longer, eat here, you need it physiologically. You’re body needs fuel.
    2. Very hungry, unable to concentrate
    Definitely need to eat here, if you go much longer it’ll be hard to stop.
    1. Starving, dizzy, crabby, headache
    When you wait this long, you may set yourself up for overeating because you’re too hungry.

    * Learn to eat when your body feels a 2 or 3
    * Try to match your physiological hunger and stop around a 5-6

    That may be basic knowledge for some, but I was eating when I thought I should be and not when my body was really hungry.

    Eden said...

    Oh Deb,
    I have so much to say and I think I'll tell you most of it the next time I see you.

    But I'm really proud of you! I'm so happy you haven't turned into a wreck because I would feel so guilty for either not supporting you enough or telling you to keep going. But I'm working on that Jewish guilt thing as you know...

    I think I've told you this, but I think when you are not counting, your actually may not be eating as many calories overall. Maybe that explains being hungry at 4am?

    I know there are certain meals I must have or I'll be a hungry monster later. Those include breakfast, 2nd breakfast, and my midnight snack. I think if I start the day on an empty stomach before work/working out, I don't do so well and I end up wanting to eat my arm off. And I would never want to do that cause it could affect my cooking ;)
    And I must eat before bed or else I WILL get up at 4 am and want to eat my pillow. And lord knows I'll for sure look preggers if I eat the pillow.
    Wow, this is turning out longer than I thought it would! Ok I'll tell you more when I see you.

    Bottom line: So proud! Love you!

    tam said...

    Yay glad things seem to be working out for you x x

    Deb (Smoothie Girl Eats Too) said...

    another ** diet girl (love the name and welcome- love me my Janetha Bean) ...monte cristo is an evil sandwich that (from my memory)has ham, cheese, ?turkey and is like triple decker and then it's battered and deep fried. My artery just hardened a little bit describing it.

    Mc- oh yay, does that mean that you got the smoothies to be more to your liking?!

    Heather- popcorn from scratch is amazing. In a pot with some oil is the best (shake shake shake) but I use a microwavable popcorn bowl with a lid and I love it so much. Let me know thoughts when you do it! (spices, cinnamon, sugar, the works, peanut flour- or just plain salt- it's all good!)

    Janetha- if you know how many tape worm jokes I've made over the years :-) Thanks for the sweet words- yes, you saw first hand how my brain thinks in terms of calories (hello buttermilk!). I'll let you know how the curry muffin is :-)

    Lisa- thanks for the detailed description of the phases of hunger- useful! I also tried counting protein for about 2 days and just decided i couldn't be bothered. i'll just have to hope I'm getting enough.

    Eden- thank you so much- you've been a huge influence. And for what it's worth, Derek thinks I eat less now as well. Time will tell! :-0

    teabagginit said...

    like i told you before, you are very inspiring to me! i feel like i'm in such an upswing of health right now that the idea of not counting calories actually seems like a possibility (albeit, a very far off possibility). still, it seems like something i might one day be comfortable with!
    i'm so happy that you're finding something that works for you and that you're giving yourself the freedom to go back on it if you want to. like you said, there's no one "right way" only what works for you in that moment!

    Howard From Seattle said...

    Hi Deb,

    Your blog post has motivated me to write.

    I am someone who is currently enjoying a 130+ pound weight loss. I have held the weight off for 3+ years. I credit the maintenance with being addicted to documenting everything I eat with one exception – water.

    That being said, there are times when I have had a weight gain of 5 to 7 pounds when I consciously decide to indulge in my vice (sweets – ice cream, cookies, cakes, Sees candy, etc.). For me, the problem is once I come off the dieting straight and narrow, the splurge last for 2 to 3 weeks. I honestly can’t explain why my train derails for more than a moment, but like the heroine addict, once I taste some sugar, I get “crazed” with wanting more. Pretty sad state of affairs…

    I find that adhering to a ritual of weighing my food and documenting everything I eat gives me substantial clarity around what I am eating, portions, and how it compares to my caloric burn for the day. FYI, I also track the caloric burn for my 5x/week exercise model and daily wear a BodyBugg.

    Tracking my calories works for me. I found that eyeballing portions just doesn’t work for me. I find that by tracking my food intake, I get a clear visual as to how much runway remains towards my caloric limit (2200 calories) for the day. Tracking makes it real for me.

    Do I think my tracking behavior is obsessive – yep. Does it take time – yep? Is it mentally difficult for me to eat in a restaurant (when I am not in exact control of my meal’s prep) – yep. The key question is – “But does it work?” – and the answer is a loud and boisterous “Yes!”
    I have kept the weight off for 3+ years and I feel so much better about myself. The tracking keeps me focused and the focus makes me successful. I’d be the 1st to say that it is a crazy way to live but to quote the diet guru Jenny Craig (yep, been there, tried that diet with many others) – “Nothing tastes as good as thin feels”. I am such a happier person at 190 pounds wearing a size 38 or 36 pair of pants. If food tracking is what keeps me on track, it is obsession that I happily embrace.

    Regards, Howard From Seattle

    Susan said...

    Hi Deb!

    I recently discovered your blog via Eden and Janetha. I want to congratulate you at how awesome you are doing with not counting calories! I don't have a lot of experience in the area because I've never religiously counted myself (except for school projects and stuff), but I did engage in some ridiculous "food rules" during my senior year of HS that I'm so happy I was able to break! It's really freeing to know you don't need to follow some "formula" to be happy and healthy.
    I'm just reiterating what others have said but as I grow older I've found that it really is best to just do what I know works for me. Sometimes we figure these things out through experimentation and other truths we just carry in our heart. And what works for one person doesn't work for another person, and that's okay!

    Anyways, sorry for the ramble, but I'm digging your honesty and your style!

    sugarcoatedsisters.com said...

    I definitely eat MANY bags of 100-cal microwave popcorn too. In fact, I just had two bags of it as part of my after-dinner snack tonight. I love it, but am planning to start popping my own kernels soon because it is much more money saving!

    sophia said...

    Deb, I'll totally share that Monte Cristo with you. Did you know I used to it one every night for dinner? I love it! :-)

    And I'm totally proud of you. You've come a long way and gaining intuitive eating. Calorie-counting can work in the beginning, but I think a successful diet is one that allows you to wean off calorie-counting eventually. Same goes for weight-gainers.

    Jenn said...

    I'm happy to hear the not counting calorie thing is going well for you.

    As for myself, I've stopped counting as of now. For me it's about portion sizes. I'm always concerned about the quality of my food regardless of counting. Counting helps me to manage portion sizes when they are bigger than they need to be. I haven't counted for two weeks b/c I've just been too busy to care and I've lost a few pounds. Pretty sure it's related to being busy more than anything.

    I've made popcorn the last 3 days. In fact, I smuggled some into the theatre tonight (movie popcorn is way too salty to me...and I'm cheap) I always make it the same on the stove in a TON of coconut oil and sea salt. YUM!

    Deb (Smoothie Girl Eats Too) said...

    Lisa (again)...I slept on your comment and boy are you right about 'the beginnings of hunger'...that they come and go- I have TOTALLY noticed that during my 'experiment!!' and yes, the need to eat at the very next stage has become apparent to me- if I wait longer, i do overeat. Thanks again for the detailed comment!

    Teabag- the thought of not counting even as much as two months ago was impossible for me- there's hope for you- IF that is what you want!

    Howard- hello again, you! Thanks for leaving the comment- amazing job on your weight loss. I am in total agreement with you about how much counting does work and also how much effort it takes. If you have read my blog far enough into the past, you'll see me waffling back and forth about 'to count or not to count'. I still reserve the right to go back to counting and I WILL if the uncounting doesn't work for me!!

    Susan! Hi- seen you in eden's and janetha's comments all the time- welcome!

    Sugarcoated- oh the money saved on home-made popcorn is enormous!

    Sophia- we'll have to scout out the best monte cristo in LA and have that be our meetup destination! How could you have one every night and be thin!!? They are beyond yummy though- or at least that's my memory of them :-)

    Jenn- I sneak in popcorn to the theater ALL the time- a child sized one at the theater is 450 calories and probably $6- CRAZYYYYY! Look forward to hearing what you do on the calorie counting - you and I seem to go back and forth on it!

    iheart: yes, the point is to enjoy food- I've never been one to soley look at food as fuel!!

    BalanceSusan, Andrea & Linds- a 900 (or 1200?) calorie Monte cristo would def. fill me up and up and up. I remember how full I was after part of that dutch baby!! Sooo worth it. And I def. ate less the rest of the day. It did even out.

    Daphne- your comment made me happy- I'm glad to hear I give you hope. i hope I succeed so that I can really give you hope! So far so good. Keep ya posted!

    Errign said...

    Glad to hear that you're doing pretty well un-tracking :)

    I LOVE popcorn. I want to buy an airpopper because I always want to eat so much of it, and I don't like all of the oil you have to use to pop it on the stove!

    Anonymous said...

    Ooohh thats my goal, to stop the rainman counting! I calculate very strictly daily for the most part but have to wing it somedays. Not tracking seems scary but I need to start doing better - baby steps for me...
    Popcorn?? Did you call my name? I have FOUR of those lidded microwave poppers! I have burnt two because I like mine a bit burnt (weird I know) but I could eat popcorn 24/7! As a matter of fact, I'm eating it now ;)!
    But did you know you can make it in a plain brown paper bag(lunch bags)? Requires no oil except for misting it with olive or coconut oil (or something like "I Can't Believe it's Not Butter" spray) and then salt and whatever you like on it. In my case, it's salt, nutritional yeast and sometimes seasoned salt, like Lawrys. Some people say you can use one staple on the end of bag and it wont hurt using in microwave, but I just roll mine up tight and lay that side down. Play with your microwave for time and listen for the pops. Easy peasy!

    Missy (aka Missle)

    Ameena said...

    I am so so thrilled that this little experiment is working out for you! There certainly is no one answer, as you say, so if you find that the experiment is no longer working don't fear going back to what works! I admire you for trying this though, I know how hard it is. Been there!!

    Kristina @ spabettie said...

    haaa - love the photo with the smoothie. that is me every morning, drinking right out of the blender!! :D

    azusmom said...

    I love the smoothie photo too, hee!

    I just started reading a book called "Skinny Thinking." I've read a bunch of books about Intuitive Eating (including, well, "Intuitive Eating"), but for some reason THIS is the one that seems to be clicking for me. I think perhaps because it's based in yogic thinking; being truly present and calm when I'm eating or thinking about eating, although most IE techniques seem to have that in common.
    Anyway, I just finished the first chapter and have already noticed that I don't want to eat as much as I had been eating. My anxiety around food has already decreased significantly. I can even eat pizza or ice cream and not stuff myself. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this continues as effortlessly as it has begun, lol!

    And it sounds like you're experiment is going gangbusters!

    Lemonade from life said...

    You are brave! How cool that you're comfortable enough to take on this step. I track on and off now, to make sure I'm on track. I found that when I stopped tracking for awhile, I "forgot" what a serving size was. I made healthy choices and I'd eat until I felt satisfied, but not full, so I thought everything was OK. But I think the trick is that your stomach begins to get used to a larger intake bit by bit. When I started tracking again, I realized my calories were much higher than I'd realized ;)

    Julie said...

    yayyyyyyyyy!!! haha i was wondering the other day how your experiment was going! is it not a tad bit liberating? sometimes its just fun to roll with whatever it is you want! i've been rolling with this too and just kind of winging some meals especially at work when its busy and you just grab and go rando things from the office kitch! come to new yaaaawk and we'll split a PIZZA! and then make popcorn hahaha

    Deb (Smoothie Girl Eats Too) said...

    Errign- have tried to love air popping and I just can't. for some reason, you can get so much flavor in the micro with the teeeeeniest bit of oil (even just a spray).

    Missy- YES, I love love love popcorn in the plain paper bag in the micro (tiny spray of oil and salt mmmmm!)

    Ameena- yes, I still hold the option to go back, but I have a feeling I might not have to (fingers, toes, paws crossed!)

    Kristina- I feel so barbarian drinking the leftovers like that but i feel terrible throwing perfectly good smoothie down the sink just because it doesn't fit into my bowl and to-go- container!

    Asuz- yay! a new book and I'm so glad that it's working for you!!!! When I get home, I'll look into getting it.

    Julie- Yayyy indeed for both of us, and a pizza in NYC sounds great- next time I'm there (Sadly, not very often) I'll totally take you up on it!

    Candice said...

    I am constantly reminding myself of the things I should eat, when we eat out.. instead of what I really want... I am going to take your example and roll with it. Every meal doesn't need to be perfectly portioned carb/veggie/protein..
    Thanks deb.

    shreddingpounds.com said...

    Someone in the office found out about your blog, and now we're all reading it. Like the way you're starting to figure out your food nuances by tracking everything. And I think you're right about eating foods that you like and being a little more relaxed with your eating plan.

    Deb (Smoothie Girl Eats Too) said...

    Candice & Shredding- welcome!
    Candice- oh goodness, every meal is far from perfect!
    And Shredding... your office is reading my blog, bless them! Hope you all enjoy a laugh around the water cooler on my behalf! :-)

    Sigrid said...

    Deb i had gotten a new dress that fit better! so i didnt have to worry about not eating.
    what yummy food you are eating in these photos!!!! :)

    Margarethe Albertyn said...

    wow, great post! I have had a similar experience... I was "discovered" by a modelling agent when I was 17, but told that I needed to lose some weight to be able to do modelling. I was a junk food eating teen girl and definitely overweight, and started to read about weight loss and calorie counting. I started to keep a food journal and counting my calories daily. It worked, and I had (for the first time in my life) my dream body, and got a modelling contract. Although modelling was not for me, the worst was how restricted, obsessed with food, and unhappy I was! When I stopped modelling I decided to throw caution to the wind and DO ONLY WHAT MAKES ME HAPPY! I gained back about 10 pounds at first, but once my rebellion subsided, I realized that I had built healthy new habits, and didn't want to go back to sitting in front of the TV 5 hours a day and eating Cheese Fries EVERYDAY (yes, I was THAT bad)! I went about doing things I enjoyed which included being active and eating healthy and actually am back at having my dream body...Give or take 5 pounds over the holidays :-) The biggest difference is that now I don't think about food all the time, I don't feel guilty when I indulge, and somehow focussing on "feeling good" keeps me (almost) effortlessly where I once struggled to be. My memories of being "skinny" include calorie counting, sadness, obsession, and lots of salad with dressing on the side. My new life of being "healthy and happy" is full of dinners with friends, experimenting in my kitchen,finding great blogs like this one, and using my time and energy to focus on other things I love in my life. And funny how much less hungry I feel when I'm busy doing other things rather than thinking about food! :-D

    Deb (Smoothie Girl Eats Too) said...

    Margareth- thank you for sharing your story here. It's fabulous that you are at a weight that makes you happy while not struggling. Thank you for reading!

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